ok, well ...i have asked before

peppera-ann- · #1 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2008, 06:19 PM

I am trying to get to the UK to live perm. I have found that the fiancee visa is probably not going to happen. So what are my other options?
1. Student (can I work while I go to school? that is if they accept me)
2. Go for a transfer through Best Western if they even do that on a work visa.
I have no other options, my other threads have told my story. My bf is here in USA, illegally now and we need to go to UK so he can be with his fam and friends, but we want to get married there and live perm.

Please help.

Bevdeforges · #2 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2008, 08:21 PM

Hi again - we were wondering how you were doing.

Hopefully someone will wander by with more experience in British visas, but in most cases you are very limited in how much you can work on a student visa. Plus, you have to pay full tuition.

But, the UK seems to be moving to a point-based system for awarding visas. You may want to do some searching on the website of the UK Consulate closest to you in the US. Take a look at what they have to say about this new point system and perhaps you'll find some ideas.
Cheers,
Bev

peppera-ann- · #3 (**permalink**) 4th July 2008, 09:08 PM

Cheers Bev!
Im still here....freaking out. Im wondering if hiring an immigration lawyer is a good idea? what have you heard about them...and suggestions?
I just have to get this done. One way or another.....ugh

Bevdeforges · #4 (**permalink**) 5th July 2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by peppera-ann-

Cheers Bev!
Im still here....freaking out. Im wondering if hiring an immigration lawyer is a good idea? what have you heard about them...and suggestions?
I just have to get this done. One way or another.....ugh

An immigration lawyer for you to move to the UK? I wouldn't bother until I had made at least one good faith attempt on my own. Also, with this new point system thing, there really isn't anyone out there with any experience yet so it's a real crap shoot (and expensive).

I know this is a repeat of what we told you before, but you really ought to concentrate on getting the bf back to the UK ASAP so he doesn't wind up doing time in the US. (That's what they're doing lately if you get caught.) Once he's over there, he can work on getting you over to join him - on a fiance visa or whatever will work. Sure, it means being separated for a while - but having him in the slammer would have much the same effect.
Cheers,
Bev

peppera-ann- · #5 (**permalink**) 5th July 2008, 05:16 PM

Bev,
I was thinking that an immigration lawyer could help since my bf is here illegaly...idk im assuming its a bad idea. (everyone is like..ooo they {immigration lawyers that is} are the scum of the earth...)Yes i agree..from what others have said, the point system is a pile of poo ...and with him being here illegal, do you think that it will reflect on the fiancee visa?
I work for a hotel chain, and there is one in Darlington (the hotel i work for), I could try to get transfered? Do you know if that is popular there? (american transfers).And say if by the grace of gods..i do get there on a work visa, are you able to change status once there (say i get married to BF) and apply for the indef to leave or remain...what ever its called?
We both know that he has to go back before me. But, we want to make sure that I can get over there first because if i dont get accepted one way or another, then he cant come back.
Its easier here to stay under the radar ( he blends well hahaha, however on my own to support both is going to be too much.)

I am at my wits end..... thanks for putting up with me the last 7 months yall! I appreciate it so much
xoxox cheers

Bevdeforges · #6 (**permalink**) 5th July 2008, 08:14 PM

An immigration lawyer won't be able to do much for him - you admit he's in the US illegally. All the lawyer can do is maybe get his penalty reduced a little bit, but it will still be on the record and that means no visas to come back over to the US. Get him back home so he can get a job and then sponsor you for a visa to join him. (Chances are he won't be penalized in the UK for violating US immigration law - he's a citizen there, after all.)

It's kind of doubtful that a hotel chain will transfer you unless you're an executive in the company. If you go over on a fiancé visa, there's a chance their hotel might look favorably on a job application from you once you're cleared to work over there. But I wouldn't hold my breath for getting a transfer.
Cheers,
Bev

peppera-ann- · #7 (**permalink**) 6th July 2008, 02:36 AM

Bev,
Thanks for the input. I was researching the hotel thing, and yer ur right. How long in advance does he have to be home in uk before i even apply for the fiance visa? He will live at home with parents, and that is where i will stay as well untill we get married and i can work. Do most people have to go for the interview, (not that many have the fiancee here illegaly of course). I was looking at some sites that said yes, it wont be approved same day or even same week as application. but the way they put it, it doesnt take too long.

Also, do you know what happens at the airport when he goes to go home/? will they arrest him, detain him and question etc. are we to buy a ticket and what not or do they haul him another way.
I know this is getting redundant, and i am finally seeing that we will have to be seperated for a period of time..

thanks again
cheers mate
pepper

Bevdeforges · #8 (**permalink**) 6th July 2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by peppera-ann-

Also, do you know what happens at the airport when he goes to go home/? will they arrest him, detain him and question etc. are we to buy a ticket and what not or do they haul him another way.

It's hard to say what will happen at the airport as I suspect each airport has its own procedure for departing passengers. The airports I have flown out of lately don't have a passport control for outbound passengers - it's all handled by the desk personnel at the airline's check-in desk.

It also may depend on what state his passport is in. If he came in on the visa waiver program, there should still be a little green slip attached to his passport. Normally, the desk agent simply retrieves this to send to the immigration people to alert them that he has left. Whether the agent checks the date on it or would do anything if he or she notices that he is well past his "sell-by" date is anyone's guess.

If he doesn't have the VWP receipt to turn in, I don't know what the protocol is. But the fact of not having turned in the departure slip at all is probably more "serious" than turning it in late.

As far as how long you'll have to wait before applying for your fiancé visa, I don't know. If I understand the requirements correctly, he'll have to show that he can support you (living with his parents or not) so I suppose it would be best if you waited until he starts a new job.

In any event, good luck.
Cheers,
Bev

peppera-ann- · #9 (**permalink**) 6th July 2008, 02:09 PM

bev,
you deserve a ribbon,,,a piece of cake...or something . I know i have been thick..and im sorry..i just wanted so badly to not have to seperate.
Yes he does have his green slip.
Do you know if it would be better to get married here in texas before he leaves? (i have a friend in same situation and they got married {7years ago}, but i dont want to delay or make it worse by doings so)

Bevdeforges · #10 (**permalink**) 6th July 2008, 03:17 PM

Frankly, if you get married now, with his illegal status, it will be treated as a "green card marriage" - an attempt to fix his status and remain in the US - no matter what you do or say next.

I suppose you could take him to Mexico and fly him home from there. When he gets back, he should mail in his green slip with a note saying, "oops, they must have forgotten to take this when I left."
Cheers,
Bev