Fiance marriage Ancestral?

[deeger]

Hmmmm. Maybe I misunderstood, My fiance is in the UK, and I will be moving ther. He will be back here next month for our wedding, but once we have done that, I will start the process to go to him Yes we have all of the documentaion etc necessary as far as proof of our relationship.

[thegirl]

Originally Posted by deeger

Noooo problem! Do you happen to have any contacts here that are/were going through the Marriage visa?

no, i don't sadly. in fact theboy is the only person i know in the UK (for now) aside from his family!

i would love to know the difference between a fiance visa and a marriage visa if anyone knows though..

[Joppa]

Fiancé(e) visa and marriage (spouse/partner) visa are both settlement visas, as they may eventually lead to settlement (permanent residency or indefinite leave to remain - ILR). If you have been married less than 4 years, you only get a marriage visa valid 2 years, and during the so-called probationary period, you need to show your marriage is subsisting, with the intention of living together permanently. If you've been married 4+ years, you will get a marriage visa valid 4 years. Then towards the end of your respective period you can apply for ILR. With a fiancé(e) visa, you have to enter and be married in UK within 6 months, and then apply for probationary 2-year marriage visa called Further Leave to Remain (Marriage) or FLR (M), and then ILR, as above.
The difference between the two visas, as far as application is concerned, isn't great. As you are dealing witha a couple about to get married or only recently married, both with the intention of settling in UK, you have to satisfy very similar requirements such as genuine ongoing relationship, joint financial responsibility, suitable accommodation in UK, financial viability, not becoming a burden on the state, and so on. There are further requirements to meet at 2 years and at 4 years. Of course with a fiancé(e) visa, there is no requirement for pre-nuptial cohabitation (some couples don't live together before marriage!), but you still need to demonstrate steady, deepening relationship over a period of time, backed up by photos, travel plans, letters etc. So if you fell in love with someone on a holiday romance last month and you are to apply for a fiancé(e) visa now, it's most likely to be turned down because you haven't shown serious intentions to live together permanently. Of course a deepening relationship nurtured over a long period is no guarantee of a successful marriage, just as a holiday romance (or cyber encounter) can turn out to be happy and lasting, but the UK government has to take a realistic line of probabilities and seriousness of intent.

[thegirl]

so does would the person from the UK need a visa to be allowed to get married here? I was under the impression that this was necessary, and to save money we chose the fiancé visa instead..but now I can't find any proof that a person from the uk needs a visa
of their own and I'm wondering if that was ever even true in the first
place.

[Minuvweyna]

In order to marry in the UK if one of you is not a UK citizen or does not have ILR you need a Certificate of Approval. In the past this cost £250 but it no longer has a fee, since the cost was ruled inhumane or something. Now you still need to fill out the form and be approved, but it no longer has an additional cost. Very helpful for those of us who are in the UK on some other valid visa (such as Tier 1 Post Study Work, etc) who want to be married. I sure was happy to take that cost out of my wedding budgeting!

It seems that for those in the last few years who applied for and paid for a Certificate of Approval one may be able to apply to recoup the cost, but you need to prove that the fee caused you financial hardship. Here is the link for anyone that might want to see if they can get that fee back. UK Border Agency | Repayment of fees paid for certificates of approval

[Joppa]

You could always get married in the Anglican church (Church of England and Church in Wales) without having to get Certificate of Approval. UK government has said they were going to close this loophole, but I don't think anything has been done yet.

[deeger]

Originally Posted by thegirl

no, i don't sadly. in fact theboy is the only person i know in the UK (for now) aside from his family!

i would love to know the difference between a fiance visa and a marriage visa if anyone knows though..

Well I will be lol- Yes the difference comes down to about 1/2 the wait and money. that's why we decided to change our plans and get married here. If all goes well I'll be there in time for Christmas (I Hoooope)!!!where in the UK are you going?

[Minuvweyna]

Yep, Joppa's right about the Anglican Church not needing a Certificate of Approval. I always forget about that loophole, as I wasn't willing to put up with a church wedding in order to avoid the hassle and cost. I do believe the loophole still exists.

[thegirl]

Originally Posted by deeger

Well I will be lol- Yes the difference comes down to about 1/2 the wait and money. that's why we decided to change our plans and get married here. If all goes well I'll be there in time for Christmas (I Hoooope)!!!where in the UK are you going?

I'll be in Glasgow when i finally get over there until my fiance's done with his degree at the Glasgow school of Art..then we plan to move to London how about you?

[deeger]

Originally Posted by thegirl

I'll be in Glasgow when i finally get over there until my fiance's done with his degree at the Glasgow school of Art..then we plan to move to London how about you?

We will be in the Isle of Man - Can't wait for this to just happen