need advice on moving from us to uk with not a lot of money

[jlms]

Originally Posted by jojo

There really isnt much work in the UK at all. I'm not sure why you think the UK is gonna be any better, I believe its more expensive, more crowded and has far fewer opportunities than the US? I left the UK in disgust 18 months ago! but good luck, I know how it is to feel dissatisfied

Jo xxx

That is highly debatable.

Lets put it this way: there are more people coming to the UK than leaving :-)

You have to have been to the US (specially post 9-11) to understand what the original poster is talking about ....

[jlms]

Originally Posted by eclipticstone

Could $10,000us sustain us with utilities/rent paid? or is that not enough?
and could someone please tell me where to find the uk electrical code book?

I think you should start below:

Electrical wiring (UK) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Fatbrit]

Originally Posted by jlms

I think you should start below:

Electrical wiring (UK) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's another world. No twisting wires together and fastening with a nut!

[Ogri750]

You can order a copy of the 17th Edition Regulations, as well as other publications from here

Wiring regulations - The IET

The Wiki page shown in a previous post does give informatin about domestic installations (Part P Building Regulations), but for more commercial, industrial works, Part P does not apply. I would suggest contacting the JIB (Joint Industry Board) to obtain details on the requirements on obtaining an electricians trade card.

You would also need to possess a Skillcard. This is to show that you are fully conversant with health and safety legislation and practices.

Some of the H&S legislation

Health & Safety At Work Act 1974
Electricity At Work Regulations 1989
RIDDOR 1995
LOLER 1998
PUWER 1998

I'm not saying you would need to know these word for word, but you would need a basic knowledge of them. I think that these are free to download from the Health & Safety Executive website HSE: Information about health and safety at work

[cblash]

Originally Posted by jojo

There really isnt much work in the UK at all. I'm not sure why you think the UK is gonna be any better, I believe its more expensive, more crowded and has far fewer opportunities than the US? I left the UK in disgust 18 months ago! but good luck, I know how it is to feel dissatisfied

Jo xxx

I agree wit you 100%. I have dual citizenship US and EU, I have National Insurance number and required Worker Registration (which qualified me as high skilled professional) and I am strugling to find job (any job). So I am looking for any opportunity to come back to US. You may not have problems with people but government - that's different story. Entire UK is a police state and responses from government are not only ridicules but take forever, and always contradicting each other. There may be different on continental EU, but entire UK .......leave it blank. Any idea how to come back home without or with little money? That's what come to this point!!! Get the picture? Besides in EU as an US Citizen you can stay legally only for three months - after that you have to move for at least three months outside of EU. American Chamber of Commerce join forcess so you can't even find work in American company because even in American Embassy/Consulate guards are from UK or Scotland. Even if you are legally (with all your papers in order) you are not eligible for anything up to one year. You may be eligible to work in UK but on the same time your wife mau not be - so she have to work semi legally with low paying jobs. In general UK claim to be Democratic, but they still live like ......
Food - you don't want to know - nobody knows what is it!!!! It doesn't smell or taste like any food we know. Even eggs doesn't tate at all. TOTAL DISASTER.

Chris

[Suenneil]

Originally Posted by cblash

I agree wit you 100%. I have dual citizenship US and EU, I have National Insurance number and required Worker Registration (which qualified me as high skilled professional) and I am strugling to find job (any job). So I am looking for any opportunity to come back to US. You may not have problems with people but government - that's different story. Entire UK is a police state and responses from government are not only ridicules but take forever, and always contradicting each other. There may be different on continental EU, but entire UK .......leave it blank. Any idea how to come back home without or with little money? That's what come to this point!!! Get the picture? Besides in EU as an US Citizen you can stay legally only for three months - after that you have to move for at least three months outside of EU. American Chamber of Commerce join forcess so you can't even find work in American company because even in American Embassy/Consulate guards are from UK or Scotland. Even if you are legally (with all your papers in order) you are not eligible for anything up to one year. You may be eligible to work in UK but on the same time your wife mau not be - so she have to work semi legally with low paying jobs. In general UK claim to be Democratic, but they still live like ......
Food - you don't want to know - nobody knows what is it!!!! It doesn't smell or taste like any food we know. Even eggs doesn't tate at all. TOTAL DISASTER.

Chris

Oh dear Chris! sounds like you have had a really bad time since you arrived in the UK! I left 5 years ago so cant comment really, maybe its changed so much in that time even I wouldnt recognise it!
I think everyones experience when emigrating is different to someone elses .... my move to Spain for example was easier than most peoples, but harder than others ... as is often the case our own personal experiences determine how we see another Country, or its residents, its services and its opportunities.

I hope you find somewhere that you feel suits what you need and want ... including the eggs!!

[cblash]

Originally Posted by Suenneil

Oh dear Chris! sounds like you have had a really bad time since you arrived in the UK! I left 5 years ago so cant comment really, maybe its changed so much in that time even I wouldnt recognise it!
I think everyones experience when emigrating is different to someone elses .... my move to Spain for example was easier than most peoples, but harder than others ... as is often the case our own personal experiences determine how we see another Country, or its residents, its services and its opportunities.

I hope you find somewhere that you feel suits what you need and want ... including the eggs!!

I know Europe from 26 years ago and I can't complain about any continental countries. I live there and I work there. UK always represent the wors conditions. Unfortunately for me it was only option since it is not easy to found housing onmore prem basis if you don't have yet work, even if you have legal work permit. If I will know someone in Austria or Italy or Spain it probably it would be better (hard to tell). Fodd wiese was and still is the same in UK as it was.
Besides I don't speak as a novice - I talk about reality withous coloration or discoloration - plain truth. I believe that if I respond to some message I am obligated to reader to tell how it is - not how I see it. I stated facts to worn people of difficulties which they may found as I did. Even with best or worst experience the best lesson is reality. My experiences teached me to wach for details, and that's what I am passing on.
If I would find someone who can help me to get out of this misery I would appreciated.

Chris

[Ogri750]

I hardly think the UK is a police state

[cblash]

Originally Posted by Ogri750

I hardly think the UK is a police state

If you look at any coutry from visitor poiny of view - I would agree.
I visit many countries and live in some.
If you look from historical point of view and learn how to observe and as well develop skills what to look for you definitely will change your mind. UK was nown for centuries for violation of Human Rights and up to today not much changes!
Many natives defend their position, but do they develop ability to apply neutral observations (not the judgements)? I never have problems with regular people.
Making opinion of anything depend on incomming information and observations - and that's defining factor on opinion which each of us form.
Only when someone learn to apply all necessary (and complex) aspects in forming opinion shall not reject some comments.
This may sounds philosophical - but I base my opinion base on facts, observation, history, culture, Human Right violation, behaviour of government and employersand as well many other aspects. And I always correct my views according to incomming information (but not blindly) - I alvays validate all of the aspects related to formation of present opinion.

So think about it. If every movement is observe by police including multitude of cameras, and police acts in many cases without proper justification - how you will call it?
Look deeper into history, into every day of life of average Human Been. You would be supprize what you can find?

With regards,

cblash

[Ogri750]

Most of the CCTV cameras are not monitored by the police. They are in fact monitored by the local councils (authorities).

I'm not saying that the information that is viewed by these cameras is never passed to the police, it is sometimes, but this scenario is not particular to the UK, but in fact is pretty standard in most developed countries.

As for human rights issues, there are many countries with a far worse record than Britain. Doesn't mean I'm defending breaches of Human Rights, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones