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Hi All again
just a question, believe it or not i'm working on partners F.L.R already, and we have not even had the wedding, but we wish to do it a,s,a,p
what i'm stuck on it this question's

evidence that you were both free to marry or enter your civil partnership, if either of you was previously married or in a civil partnership......... is this again just saying that we were both free and single?

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evidence that you can can maintain yourselves and any dependants adequately without needing public funds........... well like before i on disability benefits so if i prove again i have over the £111.45 mark per week as i get around £250 a week and no rent or council tax to pay, can i say i get theses being disabled and in my own rights and can help partner out wiht anything he needs? and that i am not taking any extra benefits for both of us.

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evidence that you have met............. is this again showing the two times he was in the U.K. with his passport with the dates he visited me and the photos and e-mails we have?

Sorry to ask but if i can get most of it done before he arrives i can get wed and then get this over and done with rather quick, and its better to be safe than sorry, what i was going to do was send a lot of the same things as we did before, proof he was a student and did some work his c.v photos of the wedding etc hoping it all works out ok, and which people do you think is best in person or by post? its hard for me to travel in person but if we went the day before and stopped in a hotel for the night i could fingers crossed just about manage it
any advice please? thanks all

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Hi All again
just a question, believe it or not i'm working on partners F.L.R already, and we have not even had the wedding, but we wish to do it a,s,a,p
what i'm stuck on it this question's

evidence that you were both free to marry or enter your civil partnership, if either of you was previously married or in a civil partnership......... is this again just saying that we were both free and single?
Yes, that's fine. They're more interested in people who have been married or in any kind of civil union at all (and want to see divorce/dissolution certificates to prove there's no bigamy or any kind of sham marriage taking place).

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evidence that you can can maintain yourselves and any dependants adequately without needing public funds........... well like before i on disability benefits so if i prove again i have over the £111.45 mark per week as i get around £250 a week and no rent or council tax to pay, can i say i get theses being disabled and in my own rights and can help partner out wiht anything he needs? and that i am not taking any extra benefits for both of us.
Whatever you did for your fiancé visa worked. Just show that, after housing expenses and council tax, there's still that £111.45 spare a week in order to maintain your partner. It doesn't matter that there's DLA; I don't know what considerations under the current (old) rules are given to it, but I do know in the new rules coming in on 9th July that DLA exempts people from having to meet the other financial criteria so I imagine it will help rather than hinder your case under the current rules.


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evidence that you have met............. is this again showing the two times he was in the U.K. with his passport with the dates he visited me and the photos and e-mails we have?
Perfect! A few photos of the two of you together is good enough for proving you've met. Yes, they'll also see your partner's passport and travel history which will show trips to the UK. Emails and such go towards proving your relationship, but they have a lesser importance for FLR (but still provide them just in case). For FLR, the emphasis shifts from planning on becoming civil partners to proving that you DID become civil partners, so some photos of you both at the ceremony would be an advantage.

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Sorry to ask but if i can get most of it done before he arrives i can get wed and then get this over and done with rather quick, and its better to be safe than sorry, what i was going to do was send a lot of the same things as we did before, proof he was a student and did some work his c.v photos of the wedding etc hoping it all works out ok, and which people do you think is best in person or by post? its hard for me to travel in person but if we went the day before and stopped in a hotel for the night i could fingers crossed just about manage it
any advice please? thanks all
You're right - FLR documentation is pretty much the same as your first application. There's a change of emphasis only in relationship: instead of having to prove your entire relationship, more emphasis is placed on proof you actually wed (so include some photos from your ceremony - preferably with other people in them too). Do provide your relationship evidence too, but really only as a just-in-case.

Our experience in applying for FLR after a civil partnership was surprisingly easy (we went in person). We took all the same documents again, took our wedding album etc - but the ECO only looked at our bank statements, proof we had wed and proof we were both free to become civil partners - he didn't want pay slips, utility bills or photos, nor any of our proof of relationship stuff or where we were living. BUT TAKE THESE PAPERS ANYWAY. Our application was about as straight forward as any could be, so it might be that the ECO really didn't feel the need to check anything else. We found it surprisingly easy, but it could be different for applicants depending on which country and personal circumstances, and it is much better to take too much than too little.

If you can afford it and can find a way to travel comfortably, I recommend applying in person because more often than not you'll know the same day whether you've been successful rather than having to wait a lamentable 2-3 months. If you opt for an in-person appointment, pick a suitable Public Enquiry Office and contact them to check on accessibility and facilities (if I recall correctly, I gave you links to those in a previous thread so you should have them already).

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Yes, that's fine. They're more interested in people who have been married or in any kind of civil union at all (and want to see divorce/dissolution certificates to prove there's no bigamy or any kind of sham marriage taking place).


Whatever you did for your fiancé visa worked. Just show that, after housing expenses and council tax, there's still that £111.45 spare a week in order to maintain your partner. It doesn't matter that there's DLA; I don't know what considerations under the current (old) rules are given to it, but I do know in the new rules coming in on 9th July that DLA exempts people from having to meet the other financial criteria so I imagine it will help rather than hinder your case under the current rules.



Perfect! A few photos of the two of you together is good enough for proving you've met. Yes, they'll also see your partner's passport and travel history which will show trips to the UK. Emails and such go towards proving your relationship, but they have a lesser importance for FLR (but still provide them just in case). For FLR, the emphasis shifts from planning on becoming civil partners to proving that you DID become civil partners, so some photos of you both at the ceremony would be an advantage.


You're right - FLR documentation is pretty much the same as your first application. There's a change of emphasis only in relationship: instead of having to prove your entire relationship, more emphasis is placed on proof you actually wed (so include some photos from your ceremony - preferably with other people in them too). Do provide your relationship evidence too, but really only as a just-in-case.

Our experience in applying for FLR after a civil partnership was surprisingly easy (we went in person). We took all the same documents again, took our wedding album etc - but the ECO only looked at our bank statements, proof we had wed and proof we were both free to become civil partners - he didn't want pay slips, utility bills or photos, nor any of our proof of relationship stuff or where we were living. BUT TAKE THESE PAPERS ANYWAY. Our application was about as straight forward as any could be, so it might be that the ECO really didn't feel the need to check anything else. We found it surprisingly easy, but it could be different for applicants depending on which country and personal circumstances, and it is much better to take too much than too little.

If you can afford it and can find a way to travel comfortably, I recommend applying in person because more often than not you'll know the same day whether you've been successful rather than having to wait a lamentable 2-3 months. If you opt for an in-person appointment, pick a suitable Public Enquiry Office and contact them to check on accessibility and facilities (if I recall correctly, I gave you links to those in a previous thread so you should have them already).
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Thank you very much for the detailed reply this realyy helps me to work things out and things in order, sorry to have asked a question that might have been asked like million times before, but it's always nice and always good to have anyperson who has gone throught this themself, thanks for writting such a long thread it was very kind and good of you and for that i am very greatfull
Best wishes and thanks again for taking the time

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