Girlfriend refused Visa :( What can we do?

[Joppa]

Originally Posted by newlight1

Thanks, so Skype records etc etc all for just the tourist Visa? Sadly she cant get more than a few days off work so she was applying for just 4 days.

Yes, because after a failed application, you need to build a strong case for a genuine relationship and bona-fide reason for a visit.

[newlight1]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to support the application of my girlfriend (her Name). I am a British Citizen and have provided proof of my passport with this letter. My relationship to (HER NAME) is a close one and has developed into a romantic one since we met on a Christian Website last year. I have asked her if she would be willing to meet in person as I feel this is very important and ask her if she would be willing to come to meet me here in my country and that I can also show her tourist attractions etc here. So I have asked her to apply for a Tourist Visa with me providing you with a letter of support. The purpose of her visit would be to meet me and to see tourist attractions here in my country such as the Angel of the North, Millennium Bridge, St James Park etc. She will be staying at (the name of the Hotel). I will be meeting her at Newcastle Airport when she arrives.
There is absolutely no way she or I are planning on her overstaying or her not returning to Albania after her visit. She has a very good travel history and has always retuned when stipulated to Albanina after visits to places such as the United States and Germany. She has a lot of strong family ties in Albania and also financial ties with her employment in Albania. Please see the evidence from her employer and her family that support this.
Thank you
Yours sincerely

[newlight1]

OK this is a draft copy of my letter of support for my girlfriends tourist visa. What do you think?

[Joppa]

Originally Posted by newlight1

OK this is a draft copy of my letter of support for my girlfriends tourist visa. What do you think?

Sounds good. A few spelling errors but you say it is a draft. Address the letter to 'Entry Clearance Officer'.
Best of luck and God bless.

[newlight1]

Thanks so much! T hats very helpful. I was also wondering, we don't know whether for me to send my letter and my copy of the passport to the UK Embassy in Albania or to send it to her to include with her documents? What do you think?

Do you think a copy of my passport would be ok to prove I am British?

[Joppa]

Originally Posted by newlight1

Thanks so much! T hats very helpful. I was also wondering, we don't know whether for me to send my letter and my copy of the passport to the UK Embassy in Albania or to send it to her to include with her documents? What do you think?

You must send your letter and documents to your girlfriend and then for her to include in her supporting documents and send off.

Do you think a copy of my passport would be ok to prove I am British?

That will be fine.

[newlight1]

She has applied again but they refused her again as the last time she applied she said it was for toursit reasons which was true and it was also to meet me while she was here but it was not her primary reason as we were not really very serious at that time. SHe has applied again with my support letter etc etc and they refufsed her again saying that because she knew me last year they think that her previous reason to visit the UK on her last visa was not for tourist reasons but to visit me and now her second application for a tourist visa says "Any future application may also be automatically refused , for the same reason, uner paragraph 320 (7b) of the imigration rules untill 6/2/22 (10 years after the refusual of the application in which deception was used)".

Does this also mean that if my girlfriend and I got married she would be refused a entry clearnace visa? Or is this just in relation to any applications for tourist visas?

Can she also appeal against the ban too?

Thanks

[Joppa]

Originally Posted by newlight1

She has applied again but they refused her again as the last time she applied she said it was for toursit reasons which was true and it was also to meet me while she was here but it was not her primary reason as we were not really very serious at that time. SHe has applied again with my support letter etc etc and they refufsed her again saying that because she knew me last year they think that her previous reason to visit the UK on her last visa was not for tourist reasons but to visit me and now her second application for a tourist visa says "Any future application may also be automatically refused , for the same reason, uner paragraph 320 (7b) of the imigration rules untill 6/2/22 (10 years after the refusual of the application in which deception was used)".

Does this also mean that if my girlfriend and I got married she would be refused a entry clearnace visa? Or is this just in relation to any applications for tourist visas?

Her eventual settlement visa application will be different and not subject to the ban, but it will be more difficult, seeing that she cannot meet you in person in UK. You have to travel to Albania or meet her in a neutral country to build up your relationship and personal knowledge.

Can she also appeal against the ban too?

Maybe, but probably not worth it, as you are unlikely to provide new evidence or there is little ground to suggest they haven't acted according to the rules.

[newlight1]

Thanks so much for that. Really appreciate it.

The reason they have given her that 10 deceit ban is because when she first applied to come to the UK she didnt put down that she might meet me when she was coming here, but it wasn't definite that we were going to meet for certian and for her it was mainly for a tourist visit. So then the UK embassy when they saw her new application saw that this time she was coming to meet me and they thought that the previous application was "really" to come to see me not to visit the UK. It actually was to visit the UK and maybe meet me for a couple of hours but meeting me had not been set in stone at that time as we weren't as serious as we are now to we were then.

So I am going to travel to France and spend time with her there now.

Also do you know


1) What is a Legalized full brith birth certificate? I have an original Birth Certificate already from my country the UK?

2) What is a Legalized Cer of no impediment or CNI? I have a decree absolute from my divorce, is this the same thing?

3) Is a CNT different from a decree absolute?

[Joppa]

Originally Posted by newlight1

Thanks so much for that. Really appreciate it.

The reason they have given her that 10 deceit ban is because when she first applied to come to the UK she didnt put down that she might meet me when she was coming here, but it wasn't definite that we were going to meet for certian and for her it was mainly for a tourist visit. So then the UK embassy when they saw her new application saw that this time she was coming to meet me and they thought that the previous application was "really" to come to see me not to visit the UK. It actually was to visit the UK and maybe meet me for a couple of hours but meeting me had not been set in stone at that time as we weren't as serious as we are now to we were then.

It's a pity they have slapped a 10-year ban on visiting, as your intentions seem clear enough and there was no intent to deceive. Perhaps two applications with a change of purpose, as they saw it, one after the other did the damage.
As I've said, the ban only applies to some temporary purposes such as visit. For settlement applications, ban under Section 320 (7B) of the Immigration Rules doesn't apply - see Section 320 (7C).

So I am going to travel to France and spend time with her there now.

Good. Build up positive record of meetings and growing relationship over the years to aid her eventual settlement. Keep evidence such as travel tickets, photos and hotel receipts.
If you can in the meantime marry and live together for some time, say a year or more outside UK, it will strengthen your case.

Also do you know

1) What is a Legalized full brith birth certificate? I have an original Birth Certificate already from my country the UK?

Any UK birth certificate you get from the registrar is fine. But see about apostille below.

2) What is a Legalized Cer of no impediment or CNI? I have a decree absolute from my divorce, is this the same thing?

3) Is a CNT different from a decree absolute?

We don't have CNI in UK, but some other countries require it prior to marriage. In your case your decree absolute will suffice, but the British consulate can supply CNI on request. Some countries require UK official documents to be apostilled, which only the Foreign Office can perform it:
The Legalisation Office (FCO) - The only competent authority in the UK to issue apostilles and legalisation certificates.