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No. Under the new assessment criteria of ACS, they consider 2 years of your work experience toward the assessment. Thus, they deduct two years from your work experience.

But this is not a problem since you still get 5 points for your work experience (more than 3 years but below 5 years = 5 points). So you still get 60 points, which is more than enough if you get assessed as a computer network professional.

If you still want 10 points for work experience you can go through EA. My personal opinion is 60 points as a computer network professional is better than 65 points as a telecommunications engineer.
I forgot something.

My agent told me that EA would consider my experience gained only after I got my degree.
If I consider the time I was working before I got a degree, then I have 2 more years of experience, which would give me a total of 8 full years (completed in August 2013).

In this case, would then I get 10 points?

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I forgot something.

My agent told me that EA would consider my experience gained only after I got my degree.
If I consider the time I was working before I got a degree, then I have 2 more years of experience, which would give me a total of 8 full years (completed in August 2013).

In this case, would then I get 10 points?

Thanks a lot!

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My opinion is that ACS might consider this experience or they might not. It depends. Following paragraph is extracted from skilled assessment guidelines booklet from ACS.

Work expressed to be at a trainee or junior level is also not normally considered unless the applicant has already acquired a qualification which would have served as a means of obtaining the skills needed to perform the duties.

link http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...Applicants.pdf

So basically, they are saying that you should have some sort of qualification for your work experience to be assessed. Theoretically, if you have not acquired any sort of qualification(Diploma, vendor certification, etc) before the time you were working you cannot claim that as valid work experience.

However, word "normally" in the above extracted paragraph is interesting. Perhaps this means in some cases they might consider such work experience. I think ACS is more lenient in their assessments than EA. But, I advise not to count on 10 points for work experience if you go through ACS.
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My opinion is that ACS might consider this experience or they might not. It depends. Following paragraph is extracted from skilled assessment guidelines booklet from ACS.

Work expressed to be at a trainee or junior level is also not normally considered unless the applicant has already acquired a qualification which would have served as a means of obtaining the skills needed to perform the duties.

link http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...Applicants.pdf

So basically, they are saying that you should have some sort of qualification for your work experience to be assessed. Theoretically, if you have not acquired any sort of qualification(Diploma, vendor certification, etc) before the time you were working you cannot claim that as valid work experience.

However, word "normally" in the above extracted paragraph is interesting. Perhaps this means in some cases they might consider such work experience. I think ACS is more lenient in their assessments than EA. But, I advise not to count on 10 points for work experience if you go through ACS.
Right, got it.

Is it possible to ask for assessement for both ACS and EA at the same time?
I know it costs money, but then I guess it would give me more options.

Who knows if they give me 10... Per what you are saying, I'd be in pretty good shape if I had 65 being a Computer Engineer...

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Right, got it.

Is it possible to ask for assessement for both ACS and EA at the same time?
I know it costs money, but then I guess it would give me more options.

Who knows if they give me 10... Per what you are saying, I'd be in pretty good shape if I had 65 being a Computer Engineer...

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Yes you can ask for assessments from both ACS and EA at the same time.

Good luck mate.
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Cool, thanks a lot for your help.
I hope one day to be able to help other people here.

I will first focus on my IELTS exam and then later I will discuss it more carefully with my agent taking into account what you provided here.

Thanks again!

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Cool, thanks a lot for your help.
I hope one day to be able to help other people here.

I will first focus on my IELTS exam and then later I will discuss it more carefully with my agent taking into account what you provided here.

Thanks again!

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You are quite welcome. Good luck with your IELTS and the rest of what is to follow.

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Hi warlock,

Please also take a look at the following thread.

Having hard time with immigration, SC 189 refusal, experts please help

In that thread the OP says that 2 years of his work experience was deducted by CO because ACS deducted it. But some others say this should not be the case. So perhaps, you can still claim 10 points even if you go through the ACS. You should research more about this. I'm afraid my information given above might not be concrete.
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Hello guys,

Now that I've found this forum, I will keep asking many questions. I hope one day to be in position to answer some of them

Here is my question.

I'm a Network Engineer with around 6 years or work experience.
I have a degree in Telecommunications Engineering from a university in "Section 1".

I saw that my profession could fit in either of these 2 ocuppations:

Telecommunications Network Engineer - 263312 - Telecommunications Network Engineer – 263312

Computer Network and Systems Engineer - 263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer - 263111

One is assessed by EA and the other by ACS.
I also saw that the 2633 Telecom Engineer profession has now limited invitations to be offered.

Considering that I will have something between 65 and 70 points, which one would be better to apply?
I initially thought that EA 2633 would be better since I have a degree in Telecom Eng, however this limitation shown on the website is worrying me a little bit.

Any Cisco Engineer has been through this?
Any advantages on any of them?

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

Note: I don't have any Cisco certs currently. My career was going well without them so I never bothered to pay for the exams.

Thanks

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hi,

You have to use 263111, because Telecom section is facing problem specially in state sponsorship

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Warlock,

I suggest you to read these documents from ACS:

http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...Applicants.pdf

http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...f-Criteria.pdf

And, especially, page 14 of this one:
http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...ly-2012-V2.pdf

From my understanding, if you got a college degree in IT (Informática, Ciências da Computação ou similar) you got to go with ACS. However, if you college degree was in Engineering (Engenharia da Computação ou similar) you should go with EA. But that depends on your experience as well, the above link should give you an idea of the experience required for "263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer".

Anyway. It seems you are paying for an Agent. The Agent should be able to answer all your questions and better advise you.

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AOA

I have a question, in my login CO is recommending medical and when i click on organizes your health examination link i m getting below message

In our first mail from CO they ask us that this is not your medical and PCC call. Know I have study in forum lot of peoples submit their medical at the time of immigration filing or after some time of immigration initial application submission.

Can anybody help in this regards or rectify my understanding.

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