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Hi, this case sounds familiar to me. I have a friend who was sponsored by WA but once he got his PR, he couldn't find a job in his field there. He got 3 job offers from other states and he brought that up with the immigration department of WA. They very cordially allowed him to take one of the job offers in the other state so that he can make the move over and go to Australia.
It's another story that he had a preference for Perth anyway and he eventually found a suitable in Perth after a couple of years :-)

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HI Aurita

as i told u, its a moral obligation. you have to inform the state with possible proofs that you have been trying for a long time to get a job in the sponsoring state but have not managed it in the state, instead got a job in other state. they do consider it and are usually ok with letting u go to another state. logically, they would not want u to give up a job in hand and come to their state and struggle for a job..
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@ Veronica, thanks for the clear input and guideline
@ donRyan and Anj, thanks for sharing your thoughts and the case.
I would be happy to fulfil the moral obligation since I am certainly grateful to ACT for sponsoring me. In fact, my preference is to live there but given I have 3 rejections I am loathe to say no to anyone who might let me land there and eventually live in ACT. its a moot point for now though.

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Question Urgent Help Needed on 2 year State Sponsorship obligation.....

Hi Experts,

I have heard a lot about this forum as very useful and full of meaningful suggestions. Need the viewpoint of Experts in this forum for me.

I got my PR (176) with state sponsorship from NSW. I came to Australia in September 2012 and as per my commitment to NSW I came to Sydney and actively searched for a job here.

I came as ICT Business Analyst & hence looked for a job in IT field.

For about a month I went around the city and registered with placement agencies, probable empoyers and also some of my references in the industry. Not to mention I also registered to all well known websites like seek, myjobs, careerone, candle etc. etc. In summary I took all possible efforts to get a job in my stream. As the market situation is bad I could not get a job in my field initially and started working casually for a source of income. As it was not my core profile and could not perform I was told to leave. Hence I lost the only source of income in 20 days of joining the casual job.

Finally I got a job in my stream with a company in Sydney which wanted me to work in Perth initially. Just before starting the work the employer checked my work rights and asked me about NSW comittment even though they received a positive from immigration department.

I explained the situation to NSW (in email) and requested them to consider my request where I would complete my 2 year comitment a little later after returning from Perth. I also explained them that it is similar to transfer where my joining & salary would be from employer in Sydney and my address would also remain here. I will come back as soon as work in Perth is over. My employer told me that it will take no more than 6 months.

NSW has refused to accept my request and replied saying that it takes upto 6 months to find a job in Sydney. I am in a fix as employer wants me to join in last week of November and not later otherwise the opportunity is gone. I called them on phone and requested them for meeting in person to explain my situation. They were quite rude in telling me that they do not entertain meeting in person or phone calls on this matter.

I was already planning to go back to my home country in December this year had this opportunity not knocked my gates. Its impossible to survive without a source of income in Sydney for another 4 months.

How should this be managed? Is there a way this can be explained to NSW?

A quick response will be highly regarded.

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Thats tough!!!

With your situation it seems immigration to NSW rather than to Australia...

By your email it seems you cant even move out of NSW even for tourism purpose, NSW attitude seems harsh!!

Anyways, good luck for your job search and keep posted if there is some movement...

I am not as educated on the topic but I am sure you would get some useful replies from senior members...

Only suggestion I can give is keep trying in NSW, it is for sure a great place and has more opportunities than Perth.


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Have you explored the possibility of getting your payroll run in NSW and work elsewhere? May be you can say that you have a profile wherein you will be getting contracted to multiple clients, so makes it hard for you to physically reside in NSW @ all times...
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You have only been looking for work for 2 months, hardly a lifetime, I'm not suprised NSW said no to your request. Why should they agree, you wanted one of their limited sponsorship places and got one. Not harsh to expect you to fulfil the obligation.
And it makes noi difference where the employer or payroll is based. You have to be physically living and working in the state.
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I do sympathise with your situation though I do agree with Shel that the main reason for NSW refusing to consider your option is the fact that you have only been looking for a job for a few weeks. States do require that you arrive in the country with enough money to support yourself for the duration of your two year commitment, so for the most part, they do turn down such requests unless there are mitigating circumstances or strong reasons supporting your request. Most people who have managed to get the 2-year commitment waived have done so with the help of an agent and would most likely have been in the sponsoring state for a significant period of time.

That said, have you spoken to your new employer? Personally, I would advise that you speak to them and make them aware of the difficulties that you are facing in taking up the position in Perth. They may be willing to allow you to work from their Sydney office for the first two years, with the odd flying visit to Perth, particularly if they really want you to join the company.

Out of curiosity, what exactly did DIAC say to your company? I'm surprised that they would have given you the go-ahead to move knowing that you have an agreement with NSW. It may very well be that your employer did not ask the right questions and hence the misleading reply that they received.
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Thanks all for your views and suggestions....

I am here in Sydney since almost 3 months now as I came here on last day of August.... The chances of getting a job in next 2-2.5 months is anyway weak due to vacation season coming up in Australia.

I tried calling NSW too but the response I got was no way courteous. Nevertheless I think I will let it go for the time being.

In response to MAZ's curiosity:


What exactly did DIAC say to your company?

My "could have been employer" did something called Vevo check which came out positive. No issues till that point.

It may very well be that your employer did not ask the right questions and hence the misleading reply that they received.

Till the time I gave them my passport details for verification they were not knowing that I have 176 ( and not 175). I also did not bother as I was being interviewed for a position in Sydney and by a company in NSW. It was later that Perth positioning came up and hence the huss puss.


Hard luck, but life does not stop here...

I wonder if it could be 2 year commitment rather than 2 year initial commitment!!!
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You have only been looking for work for 2 months, hardly a lifetime, I'm not suprised NSW said no to your request. Why should they agree, you wanted one of their limited sponsorship places and got one. Not harsh to expect you to fulfil the obligation.
And it makes noi difference where the employer or payroll is based. You have to be physically living and working in the state.
Aren't the sponsored migrants supposed to support themselves for at least 2 years (until any social benefits kick in). ? Aren't the sponsored migrants granted 5 crucial points required for migration in the good belief that they will stay in that state, fulfill skill shortage and contribute to the economy.

No offence to anyone, but I have been thinking to suggest the states to put on a monetary fine and restriction on citizenship if some one is unable to fulfill there commitments

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