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Old 18th January 2009, 03:34 AM
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Thanks for your reply. I feel that you have been a bit harsh in your opinion of Australians. I find that they know exactly who they are and altho' the history of Europeans in this country spans just over 200 years, if you take the time to read it you, I'm sure, will find it very interesting and be amazed at the intestinal fortitude of the people. Unfortunately, until fairly recently, the value was not seen in historical buildings so many were demolished.
Yes, they are very patriotic but that does not come from being insular, rather from being well travelled. Young Australians have been travelling the World for many, many years. I have been amazed at the number of Australian my age who travelled overseas to Europe and elsewhere, in their early 20s. In the UK at that time if you took a ferry over to Ireland you had travelled overseas! lol I can remember the stir it caused when we said we were going to Majorca for our honeymoon!!
It's my opinion that their patriotism comes from the experiences they have had.

Just as an aside to Scottishcelt's "Qld hicks" You chose to live there! Know I wouldn't unless maybe I had one foot in the grave" Said by a true New South Welshman!
yeah well no-one took the time to tell us it was hickville and full of bogan's

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IYHO - I see it from the other side. Yes there are those that come and work in Europe but they are generally the exception rather than the rule - Traveling, while entertaining, generally never gives one a true understanding of that specific country.

They also just take that Ozzi pride a little far........ so its time for me to watch the cricket and shout Ozi Ozo Ozi, Oi OI Oi.
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[QUOTE=Halo;94687]IYHO - I see it from the other side. Yes there are those that come and work in Europe but they are generally the exception rather than the rule - Traveling, while entertaining, generally never gives one a true understanding of that specific country.

Can't agree that they are exceptions. In my experience a large proportion of young Aussies go overseas, not only to work but to experience the life and culture in other countries. Some even go simply to experience other places without working except for a few days here and there if they feel they're short of cash! I don't think they travel for entertainment, they travel to learn.
I have found that travel gives me a much better understanding of the countries, and their people, that I've visited. You see from Australia you don't just go for a couple of weeks or a weekend.
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yeah well no-one took the time to tell us it was hickville and full of bogan's
I'm coming up your way middle of next month. A friend, who lives in Miami, and I are going on a cruise, out of Brisbane. Everytime I go up to see her I could truly shake the locals. They are soooo slow and not just in the uptake!!
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Hi Halo,
I'm very interested in your views as you obviously have ayoung family, what do you mean by taking the kids back to do A-levels? is the education system worse than the UK's?
I have been contemplating emigrating for the past 6 years and have been doing a lot of research. I have spoken to people who say the education system is much better in Oz. Christ it's such a major life choice am at a loss as to what to do..
How long have you been there? Are you defo going back? why?
Do you wish you'd never tried Oz? Did you initally think you'd intially have settled there?
Please give me as much advice as possible, please,
Thanks Janice
My 13 yo daughter started in november in her new private secondary schools (one of the best) and let me tell you the education system is approx 2 years behind Ireland.... my daughter was just above average in ireland, here she is A+ student, all her class thought she was really intelligent because she could spell the word "definition" COME ON....

i also want her to go home to finish her school years, otherwise i'm afraid she'll be "Ozzyised"

I also heard that the Aussie government are thinking of doing away with dual citizenship, i hope thats not the case cos we would never give up our Irish passports.

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mm...you have some good points to make there Paula. My (just turned) 6 year old went straight into year 2 here and all the other students in his class are 7. They had a look at his uk reports and gave him a light-hearted oral test and decided he would b better starting year 2 here instead of the standard year 1 he should have gone into.

So yes, the education system here is a worry to me also. Both my boys were above average at school in Scotland and my son in year 2 says half the kids in his class can't speak properly (and he doesn't mean the accent!).
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My 13 yo daughter started in november in her new private secondary schools (one of the best) and let me tell you the education system is approx 2 years behind Ireland.... my daughter was just above average in ireland, here she is A+ student, all her class thought she was really intelligent because she could spell the word "definition" COME ON....

i also want her to go home to finish her school years, otherwise i'm afraid she'll be "Ozzyised"

I also heard that the Aussie government are thinking of doing away with dual citizenship, i hope thats not the case cos we would never give up our Irish passports.

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It is interesting the school question. I sent my youngest to school here after being in a good school in the UK. It was a private school and I wish I had not wasted my money.The school in England was a Catholic school and I had to apply, the school here was a Catholic school, I had to apply and pay. The school here was terrible and not just education. I found socially the kids behind compared to English young people where I lived anyway.
My son is Australian and went to school for part of his education there. He said to me recently that he doesn't think he likes Australia that much. He as dual citizenship too. I wonder then ,if Australians had to give it up if they would? I doubt it. All the years I have been here and the rules are different (or appear to be ) for them. This is something that really irritates me at times.
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[QUOTE=Halo;94687]IYHO - I see it from the other side. Yes there are those that come and work in Europe but they are generally the exception rather than the rule - Traveling, while entertaining, generally never gives one a true understanding of that specific country.

Oi.[/QUOTThey also just take that Ozzi pride a little far........ so its time for me to watch the cricket and shout Ozi Ozo Ozi, Oi OI E]



They also just take that Ozzi pride a little far........ so its time for me to watch the cricket and shout Ozi Ozo Ozi, Oi OI

I do not think a bit of pride is a bad thing, but for sure it gets over done here.To the point that the average Aussie rolls over and excepts some outrages things that go on here to ordinary folk everyday.
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i feel the same way that you do, i have lived in tokyo and america. i would have to say that australia is not the funniest country i have lived in. It is a different way of life, one that i dont really like one bit. You will be alot happier to leave, australia is not for everyone
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