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Hi Everyone

I am getting a lot of inquiries in private messages, as well as seeing a rising trend of posts about applicants to Engineers Australia getting adverse responses from their assessors saying the report is similar to other reports.

This post is not about how to write a CDR. This is about what NOT to do when writing a CDR to minimise the risk of being caught up by EA's similarity matching

How does EA catch your CDR as similar?

EA uses "Turn It In" Turnitin - Technology to Improve Student Writing which is a universal plagiarism detection engine. It compares submissions against both previous submissions as well as public information (white papers, manuals, websites, etc.

Turn It In is very sophisticated and can sniff similarity very easy.

What could cause a similarity?

1- Using a CDR Writing service.

There are lots of websites and consultants offering to write your CDR for you

This is a- illegal as you declare on your application that this is your original work, b- unethical, c- liable to detection

Why? Because the same person writing the same submissions over and over again will definitely have the same style, phrases, etc.

I do not mean here those who offer review, feedback, support services. i.e. people who make you write your own, but advise and guide you on how to write, and review the submission and point out the shortfalls to you. Some people have used services like that with no issue. I mean you have to avoid those who write it themselves for you altogether.

2- Using a friend's CDR as a guideline

I do not mean copying here, I mean those who use another CDR as their "blueprint". You are bound to eventually end up "inspired" with some similarity (at least subconsciously)

3- Downloading many CDRs from the internet to use as a guideline

Same as #2. Remember, Turn It In compares your CDR against ALL available sources, not just one by one.

4- Copying from academic material (text books, etc.)

Turnitin will have no qualms about considering you a plagiarist. Copying from CDR is not the only offence.


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Conclusion

Read the MSA Booklet, understand it very well, read it 3-4 times, write your own CDR from scratch without reading other CDRs as a guideline. If you need help, consult someone who GUIDES, not WRITES the report.

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Hi Everyone

I am getting a lot of inquiries in private messages, as well as seeing a rising trend of posts about applicants to Engineers Australia getting adverse responses from their assessors saying the report is similar to other reports.

This post is not about how to write a CDR. This is about what NOT to do when writing a CDR to minimise the risk of being caught up by EA's similarity matching

How does EA catch your CDR as similar?

EA uses "Turn It In" Turnitin - Technology to Improve Student Writing which is a universal plagiarism detection engine. It compares submissions against both previous submissions as well as public information (white papers, manuals, websites, etc.

Turn It In is very sophisticated and can sniff similarity very easy.

What could cause a similarity?

1- Using a CDR Writing service.

There are lots of websites and consultants offering to write your CDR for you

This is a- illegal as you declare on your application that this is your original work, b- unethical, c- liable to detection

Why? Because the same person writing the same submissions over and over again will definitely have the same style, phrases, etc.

I do not mean here those who offer review, feedback, support services. i.e. people who make you write your own, but advise and guide you on how to write, and review the submission and point out the shortfalls to you. Some people have used services like that with no issue. I mean you have to avoid those who write it themselves for you altogether.

2- Using a friend's CDR as a guideline

I do not mean copying here, I mean those who use another CDR as their "blueprint". You are bound to eventually end up "inspired" with some similarity (at least subconsciously)

3- Downloading many CDRs from the internet to use as a guideline

Same as #2. Remember, Turn It In compares your CDR against ALL available sources, not just one by one.

4- Copying from academic material (text books, etc.)

Turnitin will have no qualms about considering you a plagiarist. Copying from CDR is not the only offence.


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Conclusion

Read the MSA Booklet, understand it very well, read it 3-4 times, write your own CDR from scratch without reading other CDRs as a guideline. If you need help, consult someone who GUIDES, not WRITES the report.

Ahmad Shady - MARA # 1575106
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another tning to add here is which could save the new applicants from this issue is:
Use writecheck to check your cdr before submission.
writecheck is from turnitin but for students and it uses same resourses as turnitin to check the submitted text for plagiarism.
Hence if you have less than 3 to 4% matching content, you are good to go.

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What if i had a project report of my project and there will not be any problem (i guess) to copying data from that project report of is there any ???

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What if i had a project report of my project and there will not be any problem (i guess) to copying data from that project report of is there any ???
If this project report is not publicly published, and is your own only (no collaboration, exclusively your own work) then it should not be an issue
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If this project report is not publicly published, and is your own only (no collaboration, exclusively your own work) then it should not be an issue
well most of the unis use turnitin too and these project reports go through that.
once they are there, there is a huge possibility of the matching content unless you completely rephrase your work which i did and in fact did not look into my reports at all but wrote the content again for career episodes.
In that case it is near to impossible to have same sought of structure of sentences etc.
but if you copy it straight and paste into the career episodes.
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how about putting two out of three career episodes from your educational background. i.e: from bachelor's and Master's ?

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how about putting two out of three career episodes from your educational background. i.e: from bachelor's and Master's ?
i already answered your question.
you are overthinking on it.
i had 2 episodes from my bs and ms projects

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i already answered your question.
you are overthinking on it.
i had 2 episodes from my bs and ms projects

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how about putting two out of three career episodes from your educational background. i.e: from bachelor's and Master's ?
I have had clients with ZERO professional experience, who have had to write ALL three episodes based on academic episodes (e.g. graduation projects, research tasks, etc.) ..... not an issue at all.

Just don't plagiarise. This is what EA will never forgive. Otherwise, they are very flexible and will cut you lots of slack and even will allow you to resubmit docs/episodes twice or even thrice if they have any concern (other than plagiarism) with them.
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