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Very useful information. This is a must read for everyone before starting to write their Career Episodes.

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In case of negative assessment from EA (on the basis of plagiarism/ insufficient documentation to demonstrate competency), is it possible to resubmit career episodes?

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In case of negative assessment from EA (on the basis of plagiarism/ insufficient documentation to demonstrate competency), is it possible to resubmit career episodes?
In most cases, EA bans the applicant for 1 year

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I have had clients with ZERO professional experience, who have had to write ALL three episodes based on academic episodes (e.g. graduation projects, research tasks, etc.) ..... not an issue at all.

Just don't plagiarise. This is what EA will never forgive. Otherwise, they are very flexible and will cut you lots of slack and even will allow you to resubmit docs/episodes twice or even thrice if they have any concern (other than plagiarism) with them.
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Hi Everyone

I am getting a lot of inquiries in private messages, as well as seeing a rising trend of posts about applicants to Engineers Australia getting adverse responses from their assessors saying the report is similar to other reports.

This post is not about how to write a CDR. This is about what NOT to do when writing a CDR to minimise the risk of being caught up by EA's similarity matching

How does EA catch your CDR as similar?

EA uses "Turn It In" Turnitin - Technology to Improve Student Writing which is a universal plagiarism detection engine. It compares submissions against both previous submissions as well as public information (white papers, manuals, websites, etc.

Turn It In is very sophisticated and can sniff similarity very easy.

What could cause a similarity?

1- Using a CDR Writing service.

There are lots of websites and consultants offering to write your CDR for you

This is a- illegal as you declare on your application that this is your original work, b- unethical, c- liable to detection

Why? Because the same person writing the same submissions over and over again will definitely have the same style, phrases, etc.

I do not mean here those who offer review, feedback, support services. i.e. people who make you write your own, but advise and guide you on how to write, and review the submission and point out the shortfalls to you. Some people have used services like that with no issue. I mean you have to avoid those who write it themselves for you altogether.

2- Using a friend's CDR as a guideline

I do not mean copying here, I mean those who use another CDR as their "blueprint". You are bound to eventually end up "inspired" with some similarity (at least subconsciously)

3- Downloading many CDRs from the internet to use as a guideline

Same as #2. Remember, Turn It In compares your CDR against ALL available sources, not just one by one.

4- Copying from academic material (text books, etc.)

Turnitin will have no qualms about considering you a plagiarist. Copying from CDR is not the only offence.


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Conclusion

Read the MSA Booklet, understand it very well, read it 3-4 times, write your own CDR from scratch without reading other CDRs as a guideline. If you need help, consult someone who GUIDES, not WRITES the report.

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what if anyone uses a pirated engineering software ..? do EA ask for a license no. for the engineering software used in the project (For modelling and analysis like ANSYS, PRO-E)

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what if anyone uses a pirated engineering software ..? do EA ask for a license no. for the engineering software used in the project (For modelling and analysis like ANSYS, PRO-E)
no way.
they are concerned about your competencies not how you downloaded some software.

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in msa booklet it says"Do not present large amount of technical materiel" for e.g graphs, photos and charts etc .. i m using my educational project as my CDR and it surely contains analysis figures and photos and omitting them will not give a good picture about my work .. is it safe to put those photos (Analysis results) on CDR?????

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in msa booklet it says"Do not present large amount of technical materiel" for e.g graphs, photos and charts etc .. i m using my educational project as my CDR and it surely contains analysis figures and photos and omitting them will not give a good picture about my work .. is it safe to put those photos (Analysis results) on CDR?????
i had the same but i did not include 99% of them only a couple or two to demonstrate final reuslta. Try to present most of the stuff in text form.

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Hi, thank you very much for this post. It personnally helped me decide that I really want to write my CDR myself - once the "shock" of the amount of work required for it has passed of course

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