Moving to Perth?

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by ronkhu

Now the question is, how good is the market there for a Project Manager or an IT Manager role.
Also, what is an average salary I can expect.

IT is not a strong industry in Perth and a lot of companies actually outsource it. My company uses a lot of IT infrastructure but only employs a small team in house - 90% of our IT requirements are outsourced and managed by outside consultants located throughout Australia.

My boyfriend also works in IT and his view is that the market is fairly slow at the moment. He gets the odd calls from agents but nothing to get him excited enough to leave a secure job.

The best way to find out how the market is doing in your field is to simply search for jobs on Seek. If there are lots of vacancies, then you can be assured that the market is not doing too bad as opposed to if only one or two jobs come up, then you know that the market is struggling a bit at the moment. Most agents also include the salary requirements in the ads, so that will give you an idea of what you could possibly get.

Once you are here, you can also register with agents specialising in recruitment in your field and they will be able to provide you with more current information. Bear in mind that the market can change rather quickly as well - I'm not in IT but when I was looking for jobs, for about a month, there seemed to be lots of positions and just as quickly as the ads had appeared, they dwindled down to about 1-2 new ones per day!

For the purpose of deciding whether to move to WA though, Seek and other job websites should you give enough information on the market to enable you to make an informed decision.

[ronkhu]

Originally Posted by Maz25

IT is not a strong industry in Perth and a lot of companies actually outsource it. My company uses a lot of IT infrastructure but only employs a small team in house - 90% of our IT requirements are outsourced and managed by outside consultants located throughout Australia.

My boyfriend also works in IT and his view is that the market is fairly slow at the moment. He gets the odd calls from agents but nothing to get him excited enough to leave a secure job.

The best way to find out how the market is doing in your field is to simply search for jobs on Seek. If there are lots of vacancies, then you can be assured that the market is not doing too bad as opposed to if only one or two jobs come up, then you know that the market is struggling a bit at the moment. Most agents also include the salary requirements in the ads, so that will give you an idea of what you could possibly get.

Once you are here, you can also register with agents specialising in recruitment in your field and they will be able to provide you with more current information. Bear in mind that the market can change rather quickly as well - I'm not in IT but when I was looking for jobs, for about a month, there seemed to be lots of positions and just as quickly as the ads had appeared, they dwindled down to about 1-2 new ones per day!

For the purpose of deciding whether to move to WA though, Seek and other job websites should you give enough information on the market to enable you to make an informed decision.

Thanks for the detailed info Maz !!!
Now, that I have made decision to move to OZ, I dont mind changing the industry / domain and hence can you please let me know what job is in good demand and pays well so that I can get trained before i land up in OZ.

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by ronkhu

Thanks for the detailed info Maz !!!
Now, that I have made decision to move to OZ, I dont mind changing the industry / domain and hence can you please let me know what job is in good demand and pays well so that I can get trained before i land up in OZ.

Mining is the one industry that i still doing well in Australia and IT can be applied in mining, provided that you are able to break into the industry. One thing you have to bear in mind is that most of these jobs tend to be fly in fly out positions - I was actually quite shocked when my boyfriend said that to me as I always thought that IT was done in a back room somewhere!

I personally would not advise anyone to spend thousands of dollars on a visa and then opt for an entry level job that pays peanuts. It will take you years to get back to the level you currently are at if you choose to retrain and that to me makes the whole process of migration pointless! Plus, you cannot feed your family on an entry level salary - you'll be living from hand to mouth!!

Sort out your visa first and then you can worry about the job a little bit closer to your move date - just keep abreast of the changes and the job market, so that you at least have enough information to enable you to make the move when the market is at its strongest. A lot can happen in a few months and the market could easily turn in your favour. Additionally, if you allow yourself enough time, I am sure that you will find a job in your field - by all means, do something different in the short term if that is what is required to put food on the table but do not contemplate taking a hundred steps backwards just for the sake of migration. You can only live the dream if your career continues to move forward and you earn a decent salary, otherwise you could very easily end up like thousands of migrants each year whose dreams turn into a nightmare and they have to return home.

[Pradiprn]

I am about to reach Perth in 10 days time. My occupation is one that is kinda tricky. I am in HR. So far havent seen any sort of encouraging responses from consultants and companies.

I did try connect with Hays as they seem to be fairly strong in Australia but so far havent heard from any of their consultants. I am coming in with no illusions of smooth job hunting.

therefore considering looking at other options apart from HR if things dont move there past the three month mark.

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by Pradiprn

I am about to reach Perth in 10 days time. My occupation is one that is kinda tricky. I am in HR. So far havent seen any sort of encouraging responses from consultants and companies.

I did try connect with Hays as they seem to be fairly strong in Australia but so far havent heard from any of their consultants. I am coming in with no illusions of smooth job hunting.

therefore considering looking at other options apart from HR if things dont move there past the three month mark.

I suggest that you try making contact with recruitment agents once you arrive in Australia. It's not uncommon for you to receive absolutely no response whilst you are still abroad as the job market moves really fast, and with most agents relying on commissions, they'll be wasting their time and will lose out on income if they tried to push candidates who are not even in the country and therefore not available for face to face interviews or even to start work immediately.

Your experience will be most likely be different once you arrive in Perth. I got no response from Hays when I was still abroad but they placed me in my dream job once I was in Australia and therefore available for interviews. They got me 2 interviews (another one fell through as I had to travel) and I got an offer from the second company.

[ronkhu]

Originally Posted by Maz25

Mining is the one industry that i still doing well in Australia and IT can be applied in mining, provided that you are able to break into the industry. One thing you have to bear in mind is that most of these jobs tend to be fly in fly out positions - I was actually quite shocked when my boyfriend said that to me as I always thought that IT was done in a back room somewhere!

I personally would not advise anyone to spend thousands of dollars on a visa and then opt for an entry level job that pays peanuts. It will take you years to get back to the level you currently are at if you choose to retrain and that to me makes the whole process of migration pointless! Plus, you cannot feed your family on an entry level salary - you'll be living from hand to mouth!!

Sort out your visa first and then you can worry about the job a little bit closer to your move date - just keep abreast of the changes and the job market, so that you at least have enough information to enable you to make the move when the market is at its strongest. A lot can happen in a few months and the market could easily turn in your favour. Additionally, if you allow yourself enough time, I am sure that you will find a job in your field - by all means, do something different in the short term if that is what is required to put food on the table but do not contemplate taking a hundred steps backwards just for the sake of migration. You can only live the dream if your career continues to move forward and you earn a decent salary, otherwise you could very easily end up like thousands of migrants each year whose dreams turn into a nightmare and they have to return home.

Trust me - Worth a million dollar advice that you have shared.
Can you also let me know if my Spouse who is coming with me as a secondary applicant - can she work there as well on part time jobs ?

[Pradiprn]

Originally Posted by Maz25

I suggest that you try making contact with recruitment agents once you arrive in Australia. It's not uncommon for you to receive absolutely no response whilst you are still abroad as the job market moves really fast, and with most agents relying on commissions, they'll be wasting their time and will lose out on income if they tried to push candidates who are not even in the country and therefore not available for face to face interviews or even to start work immediately.

Your experience will be most likely be different once you arrive in Perth. I got no response from Hays when I was still abroad but they placed me in my dream job once I was in Australia and therefore available for interviews. They got me 2 interviews (another one fell through as I had to travel) and I got an offer from the second company.

Thanks Maz, I really do hope I have the same experience as you

I was trying to connect with the consultants on LinkedIn and that is where I did not receive any response. the one company that did respond was hrpartners. Will know in a week or so on the responses once I hit the ground in Perth

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by ronkhu

Trust me - Worth a million dollar advice that you have shared.
Can you also let me know if my Spouse who is coming with me as a secondary applicant - can she work there as well on part time jobs ?

Yes, she can work part time (or full time if she so chooses) in any field she chooses.

[Maz25]

Originally Posted by Pradiprn

Thanks Maz, I really do hope I have the same experience as you

I was trying to connect with the consultants on LinkedIn and that is where I did not receive any response. the one company that did respond was hrpartners. Will know in a week or so on the responses once I hit the ground in Perth

I'm sure that you'll be just fine and will manage to find suitable employment.

Once you arrive in Perth, be sure to update your location on Linked In so that agents are aware that you are in Australia and additionally add a local phone number. If your profile is up to date, it may catch an agent's eyes and they will then make contact with you. I've been headhunted through Linked In before, and as is always the case, you have agents chasing after you when you are happily employed.

You can also register on Seek, as I've had a few agents contact me through Seek as well. You can have your settings as such that your CV is automatically released to agents who request it or you can review the job on offer and decide whether to release your CV to the agent.

[kb1983]

Hey Maz25,

I was thinking to fly down under at july end sometime. Should I apply for jobs in SEEK ? I was thinking to apply for those few days before leaving, so that any telephonic step is there, it could be done and I attend the final round there face to face.

But before that I wont have any Aussie phone number to put in resume, so that may deter hirers to go ahead.

Any suggestions for this ?

Thanks !