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hey everybody,

I'm new here and I got a bunch of questions.

I'm 19, live in germany and have the dream to get away from here someday.
I'm just bored of it. Everyday the same, everyday the same people, and everyday the same feeling you make one step forward and two steps back.
Itīs like in germany you have germans, in japan you got japanese people, in france you got french people and in england you have britains. But in the usa you got everybody. Itīs like a big pool everybody jumps in. Everybody who wants a new life or who wants to make a change in their lifes. It still looks like the new discovered country which offers new opportunities for everyone. Since I'm a little kid itīs my dream to get in, to be a part of it, and to get a piece of it. I was always fascinated by the way of life, the language, the buildings, the cars, the atmosphere, the people. I want to meet new people, people who speak english, black people, qute black girls I mean different people. Actually I just want to break free and expand my horizone. thatīs about me.

Now I took a look around and all I read was very intimidating stuff about how hard it is to get in. Like you need this, you need that, and if you don't have that, you don't get this. And all this paper work, and in a different language? oh boy.

Now I'm 19 and as you may can imagine I dont really have a carreer yet, on which you could base another one in a new country. At the moment I work at a TSV. I think itīs SPCA in America. Wether or not, itīs animal protection. Itīs like a team of old laydies who all canīt handle the computer. Thatīs what Iīm there for. I write bills, emails, print stuff, copy stuff, answering the phone, and get the trash out. Thatīs a job I'm definitively ok with. But I also could imagine to learn a job here, which is also needed in the us. You know? To improve my chances. For example I always heard that german handymen are popular in the us.
Anyways, itīs my big dream to have a life one day in the united states.
Which leads me to my first question.

What is it like?

Is it like: Get a job here, and when youīre supporting America like an american in case of taxes etc. you become one and get the green card from us. ?

Or is it like: Get a green card, and youīre allowed to work here. ?

I dont have no idea about all these visa's. But I appreciate any information from people who know.

Btw, howīs my english? l8ers

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Your English ain't bad at all! However, your chances of finding a suitable status to live and work in the US are very slim. Chat up American women on line and maintain good dental hygiene at all times.
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Is this really the best advise you can give me? Very down-dragging.
Why are the chances so slim? Can't you just buy a green card? That would be too good. But don't I have the chance to carry on a job I did here before? Like, what do I know? ... If my job would be repairing cars, why is it so hard for me to that in the U.S? Okay, now you have some different cars then we have over here. But I mean when the job is basicly the same, and the english is good, why is it so hard? There must be a way. Is it the system, the long hard process that makes everybody say, forget about it? Or are the chances just slim because still so many people want to live in the U.S, and they filter people out so hard?

What I really would like to know is how the whole process is build up.
Like, where do I start?
What is necessary to convince the U.S government that you'd be a supporting member of their country?
What improves my chances?
What cuts my chances?
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Is this really the best advise you can give me? Very down-dragging.
Why are the chances so slim? Can't you just buy a green card? That would be too good. But don't I have the chance to carry on a job I did here before? Like, what do I know? ... If my job would be repairing cars, why is it so hard for me to that in the U.S? Okay, now you have some different cars then we have over here. But I mean when the job is basicly the same, and the english is good, why is it so hard? There must be a way. Is it the system, the long hard process that makes everybody say, forget about it? Or are the chances just slim because still so many people want to live in the U.S, and they filter people out so hard?

What I really would like to know is how the whole process is build up.
Like, where do I start?
What is necessary to convince the U.S government that you'd be a supporting member of their country?
What improves my chances?
What cuts my chances?
Sure you can buy a green car -- $O.5M down, though the reality is you'll need a little more than that to live, etc.

How is the process built up? That's easy -- keep foreigners out.

US immigration is niche based -- you don't fit in the niche, you don't come!

What improves your chances? Win a Nobel prize or an Olympic gold.
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Is this really the best advise you can give me? Very down-dragging.
Why are the chances so slim? Can't you just buy a green card? That would be too good. But don't I have the chance to carry on a job I did here before? Like, what do I know? ... If my job would be repairing cars, why is it so hard for me to that in the U.S? Okay, now you have some different cars then we have over here. But I mean when the job is basicly the same, and the english is good, why is it so hard? There must be a way. Is it the system, the long hard process that makes everybody say, forget about it? Or are the chances just slim because still so many people want to live in the U.S, and they filter people out so hard?

What I really would like to know is how the whole process is build up.
Like, where do I start?
What is necessary to convince the U.S government that you'd be a supporting member of their country?
What improves my chances?
What cuts my chances?
You don't convince the government to let you have a green card, you convince an employer to spend thousands of dollars on proving to the government that they need you to do a job because Americans who can do it are in short supply. Generally that means a highly specialized job with some pretty mean qualifications. The 'easier' option is to just marry an American and get in that way, though i'm not sure that is the best reason to fall in love.

If you're serious about moving over there on your own steam (Rather than through a relationship with an American) you probably need to look up what jobs are the main ones getting green cards/visa's and then spend a few years getting the qualifications for that field, and maybe even a few years working in Germany to prove you're a specialist.

It's unfair and it sucks, but it's what you gotta do to move to America legally. Hell, i'm 21 and i've wanted to live in America since I was about 16, but I don't plan on being able to move there until i'm 26-29. If it's your dream you need to be willing to put a lot of work into it from what i've seen. Sorry it's not better news. =/
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In german I would say now: Abfu**! This is really tough. Down-smashing truth in my face.
Well, I'm still greatful for any information.

I bet it´s pretty hard to find an american girl who´s ready to marry a german boy just to get him a greencard. Even if he´s damn good looking. I guess I have to concentrate on the playstation network and other platforms on the internet to find american friends. Maybe they can help you to get a grip over there. You could visit them vacation style and check things out. Maybe one of them could get you a job. Or maybe even one of them knows a girl who´s ready to do a favour. I don't know. Maybe there´s a forum to find american girls who are ready to marry foreigners to get them a greencard.
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In german I would say now: Abfu**! This is really tough. Down-smashing truth in my face.
Well, I'm still greatful for any information.

I bet itīs pretty hard to find an american girl whoīs ready to marry a german boy just to get him a greencard. Even if heīs damn good looking. I guess I have to concentrate on the playstation network and other platforms on the internet to find american friends. Maybe they can help you to get a grip over there. You could visit them vacation style and check things out. Maybe one of them could get you a job. Or maybe even one of them knows a girl whoīs ready to do a favour. I don't know. Maybe thereīs a forum to find american girls who are ready to marry foreigners to get them a greencard.
You've now taken it to the fraud level...

Pair arrested in green card marriage that resulted from Web ads - Los Angeles Times
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In brief, the process for getting over to the US is that you find a job first - with an employer willing to spend the money and time to get your paperwork in order - and then you come over. Obviously, right now is not at all a good time with record unemployment in the US and all.

The other thing you need to realize is that, for the most part, jobs that will lead to a visa are almost always those requiring a university degree in the US. (And in the US, a university degree is the basic requirement for a surprising range of jobs.) Having an "advanced degree" (masters or better) can only increase your chances - and you're more likely to swing a student visa on the graduate school level than for undergraduate.
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I like the part where you immediately opted to forge the easy way in to the country. :P Seriously your best bet is to go to university and get a degree, it would take years but it's worth it for your dream right? Right?
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I guess you right, Danzaivar. Seems like I have to become a specialist in some certain field.

Fatbrit, I want to distance myself from my statement. I'm just joking around a little bit. Marrying an american girl is pobably not even easier. How should I do that? First, I'm 19 and not really looking forward to marry so soon. Second, I guess I read something about when you get divorced in the first two years of the marriege the green card is only valid for this two years and not longer anymore. But I don't know if I'm right with that right now.

But I'm definitively a little bit wiser than before.

Thatīs what I ment with maybe friends can help you out. Maybe one of them has a dad whoīs a boss and who could get you a job and help you through the process because heīs a nice guy who doesnīt have a problem with helping a stranger and spend thousand of dollars for him. I donīt know, but itīs probably not bad to have friends over there. Of course I donīt just look for friends in the U.S to use them. Please donīt think bad. Itīs more about this expanding-horizon thing. Like I said in the upper statements. So I keep on making friends in the U.S and I keep on going to school, and maybe one day ...

thanks for the replyes again.
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