i hope your happy also but you,ve got it wrong my approach was never D I Y i f you read and took in what i,ve written instead of trying to flim flam you would know that my experiences all the bad ones at least happened while taking your reccommended approach but what am i saying of course you,ve took it in and you,ve also taken exception to the fact that i,ve suggested the normal person in the street not the money grubbing ones but the person your about to live beside especially while, wanting a good price for his property in general is more fair minded than any estate agent i,ve met. i do not profess to be an expert in anything and as you,ve pointed out i,m not too good with a computer but and i only say this once more .time constraint is the biggest enemy of the foreign house purchaser no one utilises this more than an estate agent who will tie up your every moment if possible . to all out there my experiences were not imagined so i suggest you dismiss nothing but take your time if you have it find an english speaking person through friendships ask for their assistance in keeping you safe and sign nothing that is absolutely nothing untill you are absolutely sure it,s kosher remember it,s a jungle out there the wolves are waiting and chuckie before you correct me i know wolves don,t live in the real jungle just the hypothetical one where estate agents live regards to all........mountie n.b you should also bear in mind a lot ill informed people out there have been led to believe they,ve had a good deal and really they haven,t ,we musn,t forget those poor souls happily ignorant.p.s. i,m getting concerned chuckie or is it moses now(parting the waves and all that