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Old 8th October 2009, 07:32 PM
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Originally from usa. Expat in usa.
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I'm not trying to convince you that any country (in Europe or anywhere else) is "better" than the US, particularly as regards violence or tolerance or anything else. You bring alot of your own interpretations and attitudes to any new environment, and how you do in Amsterdam or Copenhagen or Oslo has more to do with you yourself than with the specifics of the city you settle in.
Well put. I'm finding this to be a period of introspection as much as a period of research. Its hard enough to be completely honest with one's self, let alone with others. But I can say that I'm a nerd. That much is certain. Who knows maybe in Europe I would be an 'intellectual' and it would have a positive connotation. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change. To not have to change myself and fit in anyway. BTW, I finished my 'list'. Will post separately below. Now I'm more curious about your observations and experiences.

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When I first came to France, I was besotted with a typical newcomer's interest in the place. That quickly turned to raging hatred for France after I ran into what seemed to be a stone wall I ran into regarding immigration, just at the same time I was running into other (largely personal) problems. I spent nearly 7 years more or less miserable here in France before finding myself and my niche here.
Wow, so what is your status now if you don't mind my asking? And how did you get there? Is there some kind of temporary visa that you extended until getting permanent residence? What was the biggest hurdle in immigration?

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Now (and for the last 7 or 8 years) I've got my gripes about things here (like every other French national) but it's home, and I couldn't fathom going back to the US to live.
Haha, so I was right? They will never hear your non-native French no matter how good you get? Or is it just a nationalistic pride/arrogance thing? I found some people treated me that way until they found I was in their eyes really humble (for an American abroad) and they opened up. That was a long time ago, in a different place. Don't know if it will work with the French. Please tell more about your challenges in this regard.

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What I'm saying is that you won't know exactly how living in a different country or city will suit you until you've done it for a while, and in some cases, until you've decided that you're going to make the best of it, regardless of the inconveniences.
Cheers,
Bev
I can tell you are being polite and making the best of it, but please tell more about the challenges you've had there. Vent a little, its OK, I won't think you're judgmental. Anything I can learn now, before I go, to brace me at least will help greatly.

Thanks again

BTW, what's the deal with not showering? Is it a cost of water thing or a love of cologne? Haha. Is it even true or just an old stereotype? True in other countries I'm looking at?
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