cintai, getting ss takes about 3-4 months, and according to the timeline CSL takes about 4-7 months form the lodgement date. so if u do apply for visa app without wasting time for ss, by the time u get ss it wil be 4 months already. i might be wrong but from what i have been noticing on the timeline, it takes more or less the same time, maybe a couple of months less..