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Old 7th May 2009, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by douglowell View Post
I'm interested in retiring to Mexico, and curious about Guadalajara. I'm a city person in many ways, and I'm wondering what expat life in that city is like. Which neighborhoods should I look at if I'm trying to live reasonably (but not like a pauper). I'm not into gated communities at all.

Does Guadalajara live up to its "San Francisco of Mexico" reputation in city quality? Obviously I'll need an extended visit of my own, but I'd love to hear from residents about why they love it and what's to be aware of.

Thanks so much.

Doug

I'm from the Bay Area- hopefully my answer will a little more enlighning- I moved to Lake Chapala area 3 .5 years ago - 90% of the Expat community is over the age of 60- I found the life in and around the villages REALLY NOT like liviing on the pennisula, Marin or East Bay. Villages are very collquial -small town attitudes, and ideas----marrieds only mix with marrieds and singles have to find a group. People rarely go out at night- life dies after 8pm
My house was burglarized twice--- the crime wave you read about exists- I lived in the Bay Area most of my life and never experienced the crimes that exits in and around Chapala. Car windows broken- antennas broken off - spare tires ripped off a jeep etc-you must be vigilant 24 hrs a day in your own home and live with doors and windows locked.
Finally, I had it and luckily sold my house and moved to Guad- Zapopan 9 mos. ago- What a DIFFERENCE - a real city- with nightlife- restaurants etc-theatres etc but laid out like the suburbs- very similar to LA
City is spread out- so you really can live in the City and be anyplace in 15 minutes as there is no real city center of restaurants bars, movies malls etc-
Zapopan is the newest part of the city - Univ of Guad is located here as well as other universites , Shopping malls etc. and I would suggest that perhaps you might want to look there first or close to the city line for a place to live if you decide to come here. The city is made of small gated apt complexes, housing complexes etc, but it is so normal - you don't even think twice about it

However, Mexicans in Guadalajara are a very closed society- they socialize with family first, then friends they have known since school- or people they work with- IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO BREAK INTO THESE GROUPS- UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMEONE MEXICAN- this is not just my opinion- but the opinion of Mexicans themselves-who say- Why do I need anybody Else ??

I was fortunate- as I had been in business here- so I have an IN- but even with that- it is difficult- depending on your level of Spanish. Most all Business people speak English- BUT- of course they prefer to socialize in Spanish- you will always be at the bottom of their list for for any kind of get together- lunch, diner, going out etc after family, old freinds etc Something to really think about-
I know younger people who came here from the Bay Area and could NOT make it in Guad's very closed society and Left disapointed.

Hope this gives you a better picture-

PS Air Quality is only usually bad in March, April- May- hottest months
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